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Two weeks ago I wrote a blog post about What Lead Information you should keep track of. In that post I broke down the minimum data points that you would benefit from keeping track of over the course of a leads life. What I didn’t go over is how to keep track of your mailing campaigns.
When I first started out I found that keeping track of mailing campaigns can quickly get out of control. I’ll be the first to admit that my memory is terrible…I was never good at taking tests. Once I had more then 3 campaigns running at a time I completely lost track of what needed to go out and when.
Do you know what happens when things get complicated and confusing? You Stop!
What I Consider to be a Campaign
For sure different people might think differently about what a campaign is. For me it’s the multiple mailings I setup for one of my lists. If I am mailing to probate leads, I’ll have a separate list for each trip to the courthouse. So if I have 4 lists, I’ll have 4 campaigns. I will also have different lists for different target audiences. Let me break it down with an example…
Probate List (Campaign #1)
# of Leads: 200
# of Mailings: 4 (0, 30, 60, 90 days)
Date Started: 01/01/2015
Absentee Owner List (Campaign #2)
# of Leads: 150
# of Mailings: 7 (0, 30, 60, 90, 120, 150, 180 days)
Date Started: 02/01/2015
Foreclosure List (Campaign #3)
# of Leads: 500
# of Mailings: 3 (0, 30, 60 days)
Date Started: 03/01/2015
Driving For Dollar List (Campaign #4)
# of Leads: 165
# of Mailings: 7 (0, 30, 60, 90, 120, 150, 180 days)
Date Started: 04/01/2015
Multiple Campaigns Can Get CRAZY!!
To try and make this as simple as possible I would only send my mailings out on the 1st of the month. That would put me in the ballpark of my 30 day spans between each mailing.
Taking the campaigns from the previous section, let’s take a look at how crazy this can become. I’ll break it down into monthly mailings…
January 1st
Probate List (mailing #1)
February 1st
Probate List (mailing #2)
Absentee Owner List (mailing #1)
March 1st
Probate List (mailing #3)
Absentee Owner List (mailing #2)
Foreclosure List (mailing #1)
April 1st
Probate List (mailing #4)
Absentee Owner List (mailing #3)
Foreclosure List (mailing #2)
Driving for Dollars List (mailing #1)
May 1st
Absentee Owner List (mailing #4)
Foreclosure List (mailing #3)
Driving for Dollars List (mailing #2)
June 1st
Absentee Owner List (mailing #5)
Driving for Dollars List (mailing #3)
July 1st
Absentee Owner List (mailing #6)
Driving for Dollars List (mailing #4)
August 1st
Absentee Owner List (mailing #7)
Driving for Dollars List (mailing #5)
September 1st
Driving for Dollars List (mailing #6)
October 1st
Driving for Dollars List (mailing #7)
That is pretty straight forward as long as you keep your mailings to the 1st of every month. However there are a ton of monkey wrenches that will complicate the simplicity really easily.
Adding New Campaigns Each month. Let’s say we add a new probate campaign each month to correspond with the lists I’m getting from the courthouse. I am only going to lay this out over a one year period but it will give you a great idea of how this EXPLODES quickly!
January 1st = Piece of Cake!
Probate List (mailing #1)
February 1st = Not bad…I can handle this
Probate List (mailing #2)
Probate – Feb (mailing #1)
Absentee Owner List (mailing #1)
March 1st = Uh oh
Probate List (mailing #3)
Probate – Feb (mailing #2)
Probate – March (mailing #1)
Absentee Owner List (mailing #2)
Foreclosure List (mailing #1)
April 1st = HOLY CRAP!
Probate List (mailing #4)
Probate – Feb (mailing #3)
Probate – March (mailing #2)
Probate – April (mailing #1)
Absentee Owner List (mailing #3)
Foreclosure List (mailing #2)
Driving for Dollars List (mailing #1)
May 1st = I think I just mixed up all the probate letters
Probate – Feb (mailing #4)
Probate – March (mailing #3)
Probate – April (mailing #2)
Probate – May (mailing #1)
Absentee Owner List (mailing #4)
Foreclosure List (mailing #3)
Driving for Dollars List (mailing #2)
June 1st = Where is that Foreclosure List?
Probate – March (mailing #4)
Probate – April (mailing #3)
Probate – May (mailing #2)
Probate – June (mailing #1)
Absentee Owner List (mailing #5)
Driving for Dollars List (mailing #3)
July 1st = 30 days has September, April, June and November…all the rest have 31….
Probate – April (mailing #4)
Probate – May (mailing #3)
Probate – June (mailing #2)
Probate – July (mailing #1)
Absentee Owner List (mailing #6)
Driving for Dollars List (mailing #4)
August 1st = I just resent Probate – April the 4th letter again…F?&#^@
Probate – May (mailing #4)
Probate – June (mailing #3)
Probate – July (mailing #2)
Probate – Aug (mailing #1)
Absentee Owner List (mailing #7)
Driving for Dollars List (mailing #5)
September 1st = I mixed up the probate and D4D envelopes
Probate – June (mailing #4)
Probate – July (mailing #3)
Probate – Aug (mailing #2)
Probate – Sep (mailing #1)
Driving for Dollars List (mailing #6)
October 1st = Does this ever get easier???
Probate – July (mailing #4)
Probate – Aug (mailing #3)
Probate – Sep (mailing #2)
Probate – Oct (mailing #1)
Driving for Dollars List (mailing #7)
November 1st = Darn it!! I forgot to schedule the new Absentee owner list
Probate – Aug (mailing #4)
Probate – Sep (mailing #3)
Probate – Oct (mailing #2)
Probate – Nov (mailing #1)
Driving for Dollars List (mailing #7)
December 1st = Do I send out mail over the holidays??
Probate – Sep (mailing #4)
Probate – Oct (mailing #3)
Probate – Nov (mailing #2)
Probate – Dec (mailing #1)
Driving for Dollars List (mailing #7)
That craziness only came by adding one new campaign per month. Just imagine if we were adding a new Absentee, Foreclosure and driving for dollar campaign each month as well? They all have different number of touches and intervals too. My head is spinning just thinking about it. Not to mention That is a CRAP LOAD of letters to put out if you are doing them yourself.
What I’m leaving out of this discussion is keeping track of your budget within this chaos. I only had a $500 budget each month (~1000 letters) so I had to plan accordingly.
Keeping Track of Your Results
So you have your basic mailing schedule down. Now it’s time to keep track of your results. I like to keep it as simple as possible because I’m a one man band. I want to be able to keep track of which mailings are working and not waste money mailing to invalid addresses. Here are the things that I liked to track…
- Response rates (who called or replied back by letter)
- returned mail (invalid address)
- returned mail (change of address)
- returned mail (could not be forwarded)
- returned mail (refused)
You then have to remove these leads from the lists they were on so you don’t mail them again as part of your currently running campaigns. Nothing pisses someone off more then getting mailing from you after they called up and told you to “take them off the list.” It’s even more fun when they cursed at you for sending the first letter. Makes you want to start screening your calls!
Keeping track of responses and returned mail sounds easy. It’s just time consuming if you aren’t organized and don’t have a good system for keeping track of your leads. Working with multiple excel files (like I started out doing), made it hard to find someone. Well, it wasn’t really hard but it took longer then you’d think.
I had a separate Excel file for each lead list so a quick “Find” for a name had to be done on each excel file. It’s good for keeping organized, but bad when you get a call from someone and all you know is their name. It’s not like they can tell you they were from your January Probate list right? You will find that sellers will hold onto your letters for months before calling.
Besides merging all my excel files into one, I never could come up with a good system for this. Actually I did come up with a better solution..SI Lead Manager. Though that took me 4 years to develop.
Free Excel Direct Mail Campaign Manager
I really wanted to take my experiences with Direct Mail Marketing and Building a Lead Manager software to put something together to help you all out. This turned out pretty good think!
I took the logic from my SI Lead Manager software and converted it to an excel “program”. It is just the basics of the Direct Mail Campaign Tracking piece, but it really translated well. I really wish I had this when I first started out!
Here is a quick video demonstrating what it does…
How do you Organize Your Campaigns?
I’d love to hear how you keep track of your campaigns. Is it in an excel file like I am giving away above? Or are you using a third party application like Podio?
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Comments 22
Thanks for the campaign spreadsheet.
Author
Your welcome James! If you find it useful would you mind sharing my post?
Hi Scott,
Heard you on BP and really liked your approach .I am looking forward to trying your software which sounds like exactly what I need.
Author
Hey Michael! Thanks for stopping by my blog and I appreciate that kind words. Let me know if I can be of any help.
Thanks so much for share both excel sheet, this is very helpful for new campaign creation process, great article… keep up..
Regards
Tim Martine
Thanks for these tips. I am getting an error when I enable macros on the Campaign tracker spreadsheet. It says ‘Could not load an object because it is not available on this machine. ‘ I am running Office 2013 on a Windows 10 HP laptop. Any ideas?
Author
Hi Charlie,
Do me a favor and try the suggestions on this forum post…
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/office/forum/office_2010-excel/excel-display-could-not-load-an-object-because-it/b5208c55-e821-491d-9eef-0aeb47d88e4c?auth=1
…and let me know how it goes.
Scott,
I have tried a couple time to get the excel template (and also signed up for REIFlow notfication), but have yet to receive any reply emails. Can get the file & update directly from you?
Thanks
Author
Check your email
Hi Scott –
What is the status of your SI Lead Manager? It sounds very interesting but the sale page for it shows that it not currently available for purchase.
Author
Hi Chris, SI Lead Manager was the old desktop software I was developing a few years ago. I stopped developing it because there was a lack of interest in a desktop application. Most people want web access to things and the ability to have partners/employees from anywhere access the app as well.
I’ve moved onto Podio and developing REIFLOW for Podio.
Makes sense. I will have to look into Podio. Don’t know how much traffic you get to these old pages but as a suggestion (I found it from a Google search for lead management software), perhaps redirect the old sale pages to a page that explains the change and outlining how REIFLOW provides the same and improved functionality as SI Lead Manager.
Hi,
I tried using this one but it appeared to have an error, would you mind helping me out.
Cheers,
Brandon
Author
Hey Brandon,
What was the error message? Also, just an FYI this does not work on Macs as the Excel for Macs doesn’t have some of the needed features.
-Scott
Scott,
I downloaded the campaign tracker. It only sees *.doc(x) type files. I have postcards that are created in *.pub is there any way to adapt the campaign tracker so that it sees those files and add them to the campaigns?
Timothy
Miami/FL
Author
Hi Timothy,
The work around for this is to type *.* in the file name field and press “Enter” on your keyboard. This will cause all files to appear.
Scott,
Any chance that reminders can be set from within the app to notify a couple of days before the next mailing to give a lead amount of time for printing, stuffing and postage?
Timothy
Author
No, excel doesn’t work that way. In order for that to happen there needs to be a background process running at daily intervals. This process would need to be able to read through the excel file and determine which items should be mailed out somehow. Not a simple thing to do at all if even possible.
Those types of processes are mainly setup for tools that use a database to store the data.
Hi there,
I tried to utilize your campaign tracker, however I’m getting an error on the campaigns tab when trying to add a campaign. See below, do you have any advise on how to fix this issue?
Method or data member not found:
Private Sub UserForm_Initialize()
Me.cboTemplates.RowSource = “CampaignTemplates”
Me.cboTemplates.ListIndex = 0
Me.dtpStartDate.value = Now
End Sub
Thank you.
Author
A couple of questions…
Are you running a Mac? if so the spreadsheet won’t work as Mac Office is limited when it comes to macros and VBA.
Have you changed anything on the form? Removing any of the original columns will cause issues.
As time has gone on and newer office versions of been released I’m seeing more and more problems with this excel template. I am actually considering removing it from my site.
I’m getting errors all over the place. Using Microsoft 365.
Author
Hi Ryan,
Sorry you are having problems. It seems that as Excel evolves over time my template is having more and more problems. I’m going to discontinue it going forward. Sorry again,
-Scott